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bek
05-27-2010, 07:21 PM
Going by the clips for their national training, the Chinese are looking a lot better than the Pac Rim results suggest.

Deng Linlin has a possible new dismount on beam, and her bars have improved immensly. Yang Yilin is in much better shape and has a new bars dismount. He Kexin is upgrading her bars again...

oleada
05-27-2010, 07:29 PM
I was impressed by He Kexin's improvements - dead hangs were hardly there :)

judgejudy27
05-27-2010, 07:34 PM
I wish Jiang Yuyuan could stay healthy. I think she could have won the World AA title last year had she been there and it looks like she wont be there again this year.

oleada
05-27-2010, 07:35 PM
I wish Jiang Yuyuan could stay healthy. I think she could have won the World AA title last year had she been there and it looks like she wont be there again this year.

Me too. I love, love, love her on floor. She's my favorite of teh Chinese, but she can't seem to get it together.

LKR
05-28-2010, 02:19 AM
I've read that Deng Linlin has been training a layout full on beam.

BigB08822
05-29-2010, 03:31 AM
I sure hope China is better than what they showed at Pacific Rim. They were quite disappointing to me and even the juniors looked like they were faking their ages! I am only kidding, I hope...

oleada
05-29-2010, 03:36 AM
I did like the winning routine on beam by Tan Sixin in Juniors...it was lovely and got the highest score of the event.

That said, the AA results at their nationals are weird. Sui Lu won?! Deng Linlin had problems, but qualified for the beam finals and Yang Yilin had problems on all events :(

FSfan107
05-29-2010, 03:50 AM
I hope Deng Linlin unveils the layout full in the beam finals. That would be exciting to see.

chipso1
05-29-2010, 04:26 AM
That said, the AA results at their nationals are weird. Sui Lu won?! Deng Linlin had problems, but qualified for the beam finals and Yang Yilin had problems on all events :(

Sui Lu is having a pretty good season thus far! I believe her score of 15.250 at the Wild Rose Invite earlier this year is the highest FX of the season. She's making a pretty good case for herself to be on the Chinese WC team.

It will be interesting to see how the Chinese fed. pieces together the World team. You have to think that Deng Linlin, He Kexin and Sui Lu are "locks," but I wonder who the remaining spots will go to? Liufang Wu, Huang Quishang, Jiang Tong, Jiang Yuyuan and Yang Yilin are all in the mix, IMO (though Yang looks like she's still having problems adjusting to her growth spurt).

bek
05-30-2010, 01:39 AM
Yes Yang does look like she's still having problems. sigh. Oh well. I think Deng, Sui Lu and He Kexin are locks.

chipso1
05-30-2010, 01:45 AM
Some fun with numbers roughly halfway through the gymnastics season...

WAG Personal Best Scores for the AA and all four Event Finals:

(Bold Italics = junior-level score)

All Around:
1. Rebecca Bross, USA, American Cup (60.55) ...(scored 59.15 at Pac Rim Champs)
2. Jordyn Wieber, USA, Junior Pac Rim (59.55)
3. Anastasia Grishina, RUS, Junior Jesolo (59.45)
4. Aly Raisman, USA, American Cup (58.90) ...(scored 58.25 at Pac Rim Champs)
5. Victoria Komova, RUS, Junior Euros (58.375)
6. Kyla Ross, USA, Junior Pac Rim (58.0)
7. Ksenia Afanasyeva, RUS, Pacific Rim (57.45)
8. Ksenia Semenova, RUS, Jesolo Event (56.90)
9. Vanessa Ferrari, ITA, Jesolo Event (56.80)
10. Sabrina Vega, USA, Junior Pac Rim (56.60)
11. Jessica Lopez, VEN, American Cup (56.50)
12. Morgan Smith, USA, Jesolo Event (56.30)
13. Ariella Kaeslin, SUI, American Cup (56.05)
13. Erica Fasana, ITA, Junior Jesolo (56.05)
13. Andrea Foti, ITA, Junior Jesolo (56.05)
16. Ekaterina Kurbatova, RUS, Jesolo Event (56.00)
16. Yuko Shintake, JPN, American Cup (56.00)

***Gymnasts we haven't really seen yet this season: Bridget Sloan (USA), Koko Tsurumi (JPN), Lauren Mitchell (AUS). These girls placed 1st, 3rd and 4th in the AA at Worlds 2009.

Vault:
1. Victoria Komova, RUS, Junior Euros (14.950)
2. Hong Un Jong, PRK, Moscow World Cup (14.625)
3. Oksana Chusovitina, GER, Moscow World Cup (14.462)
4. Youna Dufournet, FRA, French International (14.400)
5. Tatiana Nabieva, RUS, Moscow World Cup (14.312)
6. Ekaterina Kurbatova, RUS, Europeans (14.287)
7. Maria Paseka, RUS, Junior Euros (14.275)
8. Diana Maria Chelaru, ROU, Europeans (14.062)
9. Ariella Kaeslin, SUI, Europeans (13.975)
10. Erika Fasana, ITA, Junior Euros (13.912)
11. Jennifer Khwela, RSA, Doha World Cup (13.900)

***Gymnasts we haven't really seen yet this season: Kayla Williams (USA). She scored 15.087 to win Worlds in 2009.

Uneven Bars:
1. He Kexin, CHN, French International (16.075)
2. Beth Tweddle, GBR, Europeans (15.875)
3. Jiang Yuyuan, CHN, Wild Rose Invite (15.650)
4. Qiushuang Huang, CHN, Pacific Rim (15.450)
5. Deng Linlin, CHN, Wild Rose Invite (15.400)
6. Anastasia Grishina, RUS, Junior Euros (15.375)
7. Youna Dufournet, FRA, French International (15.350)
8. Tatiana Nabieva, RUS, Moscow World Cup (15.300)
9. Victoria Komova, RUS, Junior Euros (15.200)
10. Koko Tsurumi, JPN, Toyota Intl Competition (15.100)
11. Aliya Mustafina, RUS, Europeans (15.050)
12. Jordyn Wieber, USA, Junior Pac Rim (14.825)
13. Nataliya Kononenko, URK, Europeans (14.750)
14. Rebecca Bross, USA, Pacific Rim (14.700) ...scored 15.150 in the AA there...

***Gymnasts we haven't really seen yet this season: Bridget Sloan (USA). Made the EF at Worlds in 2009, but was injured at Pac Rim 2010 and did poorly on this event during the team finals.

Balance Beam:
1. Sixin Tan, CHN, Junior Pac Rim (15.350)
2. Rebecca Bross, USA, Pacific Rim (14.925)
3. Victoria Komova, RUS, Junior Euros (14.900)
4. Wu Liufang, CHN, French International (14.875)
5. Tatiana Solovyeva, RUS, Cottbus World Cup (14.775)
6. Sui Lu, CHN, Wild Rose Invite (14.750)
7. Aly Raisman, USA, Pacific Rim (14.675)
8. L. Iordache, ROU, Junior Euros (14.575)
9. Ksenia Afanasyeva, RUS, Pacific Rim (14.525)
10. Sabrina Vega, USA, Junior Pac Rim (14.475)
11. Kristina Vaculik, CAN, Cottbus World Cup (14.425)
11. Madeline Gardiner, CAN, Junior Pac Rim (14.425)
13. Elena Amelia Racea, ROU, Europeans (14.400)
14. Aliya Mustafina, RUS, Europeans (14.375)
15. Deng Linlin, CHN, Wild Rose Invite (14.250)

***Gymnasts we haven't really seen yet this season: Lauren Mitchell (AUS), Ivana Hong (USA). These girls placed 2nd and 3rd on beam at Worlds 2009.

Floor Exercise:
1. Sui Lu, CHN, Wild Rose Invite (15.250)
2. Rebecca Bross, USA, Pacific Rim (15.175)
3. Beth Tweddle, GBR, French International (15.025)
4. Deng Linlin, CHN, Wild Rose Invite (14.700)
5. Aly Raisman, USA, Pacific Rim (14.625)
6. Jordyn Wieber, USA, Junior Pac Rim (14.600)
7. Anna Myzdrikova, RUS, Europeans (14.325)
8. Anastasia Grishina, RUS, Junior Euros (14.275)
8. L. Iordache, ROU, Junior Euros (14.275)
8. Kyoko Oshima, JPN, Toyota International Competition (14.275)
11. Koko Tsurumi, JPN, Toyota International Competition (14.200)
11. Anastasia Sidorova, RUS, Junior Euros (14.200)
11. Kyla Ross, USA, Junior Pac Rim (14.200)
14. Diana Laura Bulimar, ROU, Junior Euros (14.175)
15. Kytra Hunter, USA, Toyota International Competition (14.150)

***Gymnasts we haven't really seen yet this season: Lauren Mitchell (AUS), who was 2nd on FX at Worlds 2009. Also, we haven't seen much from Ana Porgras (ROU) this season. Porgras was 7th AA, 3rd (tie with Bross) on UB, 7th on BB, and 5th (tie with Bross) on FX at Worlds in 2009. I believe she's out with an injured ankle/foot which she sustained at Euros this year.

Phew! Discuss! :)

oleada
05-30-2010, 03:35 AM
Grishina's AA score is actually higher than that. She scored 59.450 at Jesolo.

For the event scores - are you just going by EF score results or also including AA? Because at the Jesolo event, Grishina had 15.9 in UB, 14.4 on FX and 14.9 in BB, but they were all in the AA competition.

Erica Fasana (ITA) also scored well in Jesolo, with a 56.05 in the AA which would put her on the list.

I'm not sure if the scores are directly comparable, like in skating :) The Euros scores seemed stricter than PacRim, or PacRim was more generous. And to be honest, American Cup scores always seem very high, though I can't remember what the gymnastics was actually liker right now, LOL.

ETA: Apparently the winner of the Chinese AA nationals was Tan Sixin, not Sui Lu. And He Kexin won bars with a 16.225.

chipso1
05-30-2010, 07:14 AM
Grishina's AA score is actually higher than that. She scored 59.450 at Jesolo.

For the event scores - are you just going by EF score results or also including AA? Because at the Jesolo event, Grishina had 15.9 in UB, 14.4 on FX and 14.9 in BB, but they were all in the AA competition.

I'm not sure if the scores are directly comparable, like in skating :) The Euros scores seemed stricter than PacRim, or PacRim was more generous. And to be honest, American Cup scores always seem very high, though I can't remember what the gymnastics was actually liker right now, LOL.

I just used EF scores for the particular events, not what each gymnast received in the AA competition.

I know the scores aren't directly comparable, but it's still fun to speculate. I didn't think the Pac Rim scores were too out of line compared to the scores at Euros, either. And I know American Cup scores aren't reliable, which is why I included what Bross and Raisman scored at the Pac Rim Championships (slightly lower than their AmCup scores).

Thx for the note about Grishina...I must have overlooked her Jesolo scores!

LKR
05-30-2010, 04:01 PM
Koko Tsurumi scored a 58.475 on day 1 of Japanese Nationals, and Japanese Nationals scoring tends to be pretty legitimate.

BTW, the junior vault scores from Euros aren't quite comparable with those of the seniors because juniors were allowed to do both of their vaults from the same entry. Nonetheless, thanks for doing this Chipso1!

chipso1
05-30-2010, 07:38 PM
Koko Tsurumi scored a 58.475 on day 1 of Japanese Nationals, and Japanese Nationals scoring tends to be pretty legitimate.

BTW, the junior vault scores from Euros aren't quite comparable with those of the seniors because juniors were allowed to do both of their vaults from the same entry. Nonetheless, thanks for doing this Chipso1!

Thanks for the info, LKR! Has Tsurumi been injured? IIRC, her last international event since Worlds was back in December at the Toyota International Competition...