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SaSherka
10-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Sooo... Who went to see Tosca Live in HD from the Met yesterday?

BlueRidge
10-11-2009, 08:57 PM
I did! I loved it but I'm in no tecnik when it comes to opera, and I'd be interested to hear from any of the cognoscente who saw it.

I read a review and the criticism of the direction seemed to be largely about the murder scene, well I thought it was plenty dramatic, so I don't know what the criticism was about.

I thought Karita Matilla was really good.

I admittedly spent most of the third act visualizing who has skated to the music as it was playing... :lol:

IceAlisa
10-11-2009, 11:34 PM
No, but from the descriptions I've read in reviews, Scarpia gropes the Madonna at the end of the first act, because Tosca makes him forget G-d, and at the beginning of the second, at least one of the three prostitutes that are all over him mimes fellatio.

But I suspect a lot of the boos were because it replaced the very lavish Zeffirelli production.
Thanks for explaining.

Big deal. Boo to the audiences. :rolleyes:

emason
10-11-2009, 11:46 PM
I read a review and the criticism of the direction seemed to be largely about the murder scene, well I thought it was plenty dramatic, so I don't know what the criticism was about.

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Tosca kills Scarpia in a moment of panic; she sees the knife, she grabs it, she stabs him. Then, because he has died suddenly with no last rites, she places candles around the body, in her way giving him last rites. In this production, it is staged as premeditated murder; she sees the knife, she picks it up and hides it, she thinks about killing him and then a while later she does and then she leaves without giving him her version of last rites.

That's one of the issues that enrages the traditionalists about this production. There is a big difference between self-defense/unpremeditated murder and murder.

IceAlisa
10-11-2009, 11:56 PM
That's one of the issues that enrages the traditionalists about this production. There is a big difference between self-defense/unpremeditated murder and murder.

That I can see as being a bit of a problem. That's majorly changing the character's character.

agalisgv
10-25-2009, 01:38 AM
Well, we caught Aida today. This time there were actual people in the theater besides us :P.

Anyhow, it wasn't quite the hit I was hoping for, but my oldest was generally positive about it by the end. The man playing Ramades had a tremendous voice I thought. Did anyone else watch it?

We're planning on seeing Turandot next. And they did confirm they were doing a new production of Carmen this year, so not so sure about that one.

Twilight1
10-25-2009, 01:44 PM
Anyone seen this one?

IPHIGENIE EN TAURIDE

kwanfan1818
10-25-2009, 03:35 PM
The Metropolitan Opera and Seattle Opera did a co-production of "Iphigenie en Tauride" a couple of years ago, and I was lucky to see it in Seattle three times and to hear it on Sirius again. (The big news at the Met was that Placido Domingo sang the baritone role, and it put butts in seats for an unknown opera, but I thought it was Susan Graham's, the Iphigenie's, vocal triumph.) It's got very beautiful music, but it's not like a Verdi or Puccini opera or even Mozart, his contemporary, in the overall sound or in the libretto, which, like earlier operas, is based on myth.

The most famous music from it is the tenor aria, which survived on a number of tenor aria albums, like this one posted to YouTube, sung by George Thill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLYr9qQLweQ

You should be able to get a feel for whether you'd like the music from this.

SaSherka
10-25-2009, 03:56 PM
Well, we caught Aida today. This time there were actual people in the theater besides us :P.

Anyhow, it wasn't quite the hit I was hoping for, but my oldest was generally positive about it by the end. The man playing Ramades had a tremendous voice I thought. Did anyone else watch it?

We're planning on seeing Turandot next. And they did confirm they were doing a new production of Carmen this year, so not so sure about that one.

My whole family went to see Aida yesterday, but I am going to the encore on Nov 11 or 12. All of them were pleased with the production, singing and intermission interviews, so I am looking forward to it.

As for Carmen, I listened to the Covent Garden one yesterday on BBC radio (the one with Garanca and Alagna). The recording will be available until next Saturday here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tnpy

I am seeing Rossini's Tancredi today. Di Tanti Palpiti (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5m_qFd2DI)

kwanfan1818
10-25-2009, 06:12 PM
It's very clever of the Met to interview the singers from the upcoming HD at intermission of the current one. Marcelo Giordani (Calaf) was tiffed in a very nice suit, and Maria Guleghina (Turandot) was wearing a low cleavage black pants suit with some kind of white decoration at the bottom of one side of the jacket. They are the best ambassadors for getting the audience on their side and invested in the performance. I was going to skip Turandot, but I'm re-thinking that now.

Wyliefan
10-25-2009, 06:16 PM
That I can see as being a bit of a problem. That's majorly changing the character's character.

I would argue that groping the Madonna isn't exactly in character either. Even some of the less traditionalist critics didn't like it, from what I hear.

Even were I not a Christian -- and for what it's worth, I'm Protestant rather than Catholic -- I'd think there would be little to be gained from deliberately trying to shock and offend a portion of the audience.

kwanfan1818
10-25-2009, 07:26 PM
I would argue that groping the Madonna isn't exactly in character either. Even some of the less traditionalist critics didn't like it, from what I hear.
Despite the news reports, he didn't grope the Madonna, he kissed her. When I was in Europe, I saw older worshippers in Spain do the same, although not as precipitously and publicly. I don't know whether this would have been true in Rome.

I'm not so sure Tosca's action was that out of character. In the instrumental music that is played while Scarpia writes out the safe conduct passes, there are cues for her to look around, see the knife at the table, freeze at the thought that she could use it to kill him, and then to take it and hide it, usually at her side, as the traditional Tosca Act II dress is short-sleeved. Scarpia usually runs across the room after he sings "Tosca, you're finally mine!" rather than jumping her on the couch, but I saw a Seattle Opera production in which Greer Grimsley did the sofa plunge earlier in the scene.

In this production, she sees it earlier and thinks about using it, but then puts it back on the table. (The transmission microphones picked up the big clunk when she did.) Later, when she decides she has to use it -- all of her Visi d'Arte-ing having accomplished nothing -- she hides it under the pillow on the sofa, instead of pacing around the stage with the hidden knife.

Little Princess
10-26-2009, 05:45 PM
Mozart's operas totally rock!
I especially lurve Figaro, The Magic Flute and Don Giovanni.

Then I can recommend Carmen, Tosca, Turandot, and Madame Butterfly.

SaSherka
11-03-2009, 03:15 AM
I've never been much into opera. But last year my family decided to check out La Cenerentola with the Met Live in HD series (that's about as close as we can get to live opera where I live). Well, lo and behold my kids just loved it and want to see some more.
...Do people have suggestions on what would be good picks for opera newbies, particularly children? I think they liked La Cenerentola in part because it was funny.

I realize you and your family have already seen La Cenerentola, but may I suggest this tres voidy production (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW9egTpr6YA) featuring Juan Diego Florez and Joyce DiDonato that just came out on DVD (http://www.amazon.com/Rossini-Cenerentola-Joyce-DiDonato/dp/B001PU6SUA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1257217932&sr=8-4)

jollibee
12-19-2009, 04:07 AM
Just a reminder that it's The Tales of Hoffmann tomorrow! It's best known aria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7czptgEvvU) was in Life is Beautiful and Titanic. The previews made it look minimalistic and creepy. It's going to be an adjustment after the gorgeous Turandot production, but I can't wait!!