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olympic
08-16-2010, 10:24 PM
What are Crystal's people? Did I miss something or will this be revealed shortly?

rfisher
08-16-2010, 10:34 PM
What are Crystal's people? Did I miss something or will this be revealed shortly?

It hasn't been said. I take it you have not read the books? they're werepanthers

jen_faith
08-16-2010, 11:18 PM
Screech, you are a walking TB/SVM encyclopedia. :lol:



l.
I think the show has only gotten 4 changes right:
1. Jessica (which I guess means I'm okay with Bill staking Longshadow)
2. Godric (though I would have loved to see the Appius stuff play out in later books. As a fan at Comic Con asked, could they maybe make Appius show up as Godric's maker?)
3. Viking backstory (though unfortunately it took from book Eric's awesomeness)
4. Lafayette

I'm actually okay with a lot of the Sam changes too. I think they make him a more interesting character, even tho' the maenad stuff was really a bit much. I think the book maenad storyline would have worked better/been less tedious. The bad guys in the end were people. Just plain old lousy people.

I didn't think much of Appius as a character in the latest book so I am happy not to see any of him in the show. I thought the Godric storyline was not too bad but it got a little heavy-handed with the symbolism at times.

PrincessLeppard
08-17-2010, 12:41 AM
I didn't think much of Appius as a character in the latest book so I am happy not to see any of him in the show. I thought the Godric storyline was not too bad but it got a little heavy-handed with the symbolism at times.

But he was so pretty! :wuzrobbed

screech
08-17-2010, 04:15 AM
Regarding Godric...
About a month ago the actor, Allan Hyde, started requesting fans to campaign for him to come back to the show as much as possible (he has 1000 years of history with Eric... kick ass flashback alert!). I know I'd love to see as much of him as possible, but I don't know if it would be possible to bring him back for that purpose for more than 1 or 2 more seasons. Allan is just 20 years old, so his appearance will change more over the next few years than the other actors who are required to appear ageless.
Also, when pictures were leaked of the filming of the season finale, Allan was hanging out on set with Alexander, both in wardrobe, and he was wearing Godric's death clothes. So it seems that we'll have him for the finale, whether in a flashback or in a 'vision' by Eric.
And I concur, he's gorgeous! And has apparently moved to LA (TB was his first US role), though he still does some work in Denmark.

In other news, there's a good HBO interview with Kristin Bauer van Straten (http://www.hbo.com/true-blood#/true-blood/episodes/3/33-everything-is-broken/interview/kristin-bauer-van-straten) about Pam's relationship with Eric. I love a quote she mentioned from her Blu Ray commentariy for season 2 about meeting Eric: "I met Eric, and my world split apart. And Eric likes to joke, so did my legs." Hee.

And for some eye candy, Joe Manganiello attended the 2010 Breakthrough of the Year Awards. (http://www.trueblood-online.com/cast-crew/joe-manganiello-alcide/joe-manganiello-attends-the-2010-breakthrough-of-the-year-awards/)

Orable
08-17-2010, 04:50 AM
This episode was better... probably because it was light on the Sookie/Bill.
Bill and Sookie are both way more interesting without the other, imo. But I'm not a fan of how Claudine is portrayed in the show (where's her joie de vivre? Where's her verve? TV Claudine is kind of emo and whoever heard of emo fairies? :huh: ) so I thought the summerland bit was cheesy and stupid. Though it's nice to see SM without the pale vamp makeup and in the sun :)

The Eric/Pam emotional bit was nice. Pam cried!!!! And glad to see that Eric did take the crown, though if I were him, I'd be wearing it. Loved that Eric's 'trial' took place over webcam, though I'm surprised he was so completely honest with them.
I thought it was out of character for Eric to not have told Pam about his history with Russell (also, did she say she was with him for 100 years? That doesn't seem...right). Hats off to ASkars for the "inquisition" scene; I thought he brought Eric's desperation, power, rage, etc quite impressively. I'm one of those haters people who though agree that he's GORGEOUS, haven't really been impressed by ASkars in the acting department..until now :respec:

I kind of like that they're having Hadley in the series. I always wished in the books that she and Sookie had rekindled their familial relationship, so its nice to see it happening, even if it introduces Hunter early. And either that kid is tall or Hadley is extremely short. And really, with what Hadley told Sookie, isn't Sookie the least bit suspicious about Bill, especially after just having discussed the file?
I like how they're handling the Hadley thing, too, though I also wonder how she's able to gallivant around the vamps during the daytime - while I'd believe that QSA would allow her her freedom somewhat, I can't belive that Russell would allow anything like that. RE: her height, that actress (who is cute as a button!) seems like she's actually shorter than Anna Paquin, so I don't think Hunter is abnormally tall; more like she's super short.

I'm completely over Jason/Crystal. ...
I hated the Crystal-Jason storyline in the book and I hate it in the show. She's boring, demanding and Trouble and I have trouble believing that Jason Stackhouse would be interested in her at all. I am seriously annoyed at how TB is portraying Calvin Norris; he was one of the more interesting characters in the book - as the leader of Hotshot, he is upstanding and responsible. Of course, all of that was within the paradigm of Hotshot's rules, but Sookie (and the reader) ends up really respecting him. Come to think of it, TV Sookie doesn't interact with Calvin at all, and imo, that's a lost chance to really develop her character. Of course, in the books, she meets Calvin after she and Bill break up, so her interest in him was potentially romantic, as well as platonic.

And Russell... so creepy with his grieving, though his final line of the episode was hilarious!!!

Love Franklin. Sad to see him go.

ETA... can Russell please do the local news? I might actually watch with his exciting delivery. And Denis O'Hare should submit that scene for his Emmy/Golden Globe tape next season (complete with throwing it to the weather girl.)
Have said it before and will say it again - Denis O'Hare and James Frain have been absolutely scrumptious in their roles on TB this year! Of course, the way his story was told, Franklin had to go, but oh, what a way to go :respec: And it was AWESOME to see Russell bring the CRAZY megalomaniacal vamp front and center. Loved every. single. scene. he was in :encore: I can't imagine that Russell will be long for the series (I'm not spoilered - just a guess), and it will be TB's loss. Too bad he can't stick around for another season to continue to be Villain No. 1. Love him. Denis O'Hare for the Emmy!!!

Evidently Alan Ball thinks Bill can Walk On Water (literally).
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I came to be at peace with True Blood's deviations from the book when I finally accepted/decided that the two were just very different entitities and I shouldn't expect the story in one to exactly mirror the story in the other. If the good stuff in SVM gets left out of TB then it gets left out. It's too bad, but it's not going to diminish my usual enjoyment of TB--even if I do find TB to be a bit over the top at times in a pornish and gory way.
Same here. I enjoy both the book and the tv show somewhat equally. CH is a total cheeseball, but she's a nutter and her vamps (and other characters) are totally entertaining and over the top. TB mostly takes itself seriously, but isn't afraid to poke fun some times. I started reading the books after I'd seen S1, and while S1 pretty closely follows Dead Until Dark, the other deviations havne't really bothered me too much (aside from the aforementioned changes re: Calvin and the Eric vs. Bill storylines). I try to take them as two separate beasts.

Sam going Rambo on Hotshot daddy was odd. The jury is still out on whether this is a good thing plotwise or a bad thing.
I took it as him just releasing all the pent-up energy and rage he'd had bottled up - his troubled feelings for his parents, his feelings of impotence around being able to help Tara - that he needed to let out. To have a trailer trash cat tell him he's being a pussy is probably what pushed him over the edge - true shifters being very proud of their nature and all.

screech
08-17-2010, 05:27 AM
I thought it was out of character for Eric to not have told Pam about his history with Russell (also, did she say she was with him for 100 years? That doesn't seem...right). Hats off to ASkars for the "inquisition" scene; I thought he brought Eric's desperation, power, rage, etc quite impressively. I'm one of those haters people who though agree that he's GORGEOUS, haven't really been impressed by ASkars in the acting department..until now :respec:
If you think about it though, Eric thought the leader (who he didn't know was Russell) had died after WW2, so it was a bit of a non-issue until the weres resurfaced. Plus, Pam's his baby girl... I think most fathers would want to shield their little princess from something so terrible. He also did have Godric though to confide in and deal with it all.

As for ASkars, I like seeing Eric's vulnerable side because it does show Alex's acting talent instead of just cold bastard. Most show reviewers though constantly praise him as the most talented actor on the show. Not necessarily from how he reads his lines, but from the way he uses his face (mostly his eyes) to show the layers of what's really going on with Eric.


I like how they're handling the Hadley thing, too, though I also wonder how she's able to gallivant around the vamps during the daytime - while I'd believe that QSA would allow her her freedom somewhat, I can't belive that Russell would allow anything like that. RE: her height, that actress (who is cute as a button!) seems like she's actually shorter than Anna Paquin, so I don't think Hunter is abnormally tall; more like she's super short.
The actress who plays Hadley, Lindsay Haun is actually a singer (http://www.trueblood-news.com/lindsey-haun-actress-and-singer) and her group is The Haun Solo Project (awesome name). I agree that she's super cute, though book hadley is tall and thinner with dark hair and eyes... I guess they just wanted to show the familial resemblance on the show.
As for her being out, I'm guessing she snuck out... maybe one of the reasons she was so skittish when she and Sookie met at the low rent aquarium. Also, Russell is quite a bit preoccupied at the moment.

I can't imagine that Russell will be long for the series (I'm not spoilered - just a guess), and it will be TB's loss. Too bad he can't stick around for another season to continue to be Villain No. 1. Love him. Denis O'Hare for the Emmy!!!
I am wondering whether Denis will be entered as a guest actor or supporting actor for the Emmy races next year. If guest, I think he'll be the John Lithgow of the season and be pretty unbeatable (especially if his newscaster scene is submitted). If supporting, it'll be a bit harder, especially since I think the show will likely push ASkars in that category based on his awesome work this season, even though 'genre' shows don't often get much recognition (the show geting nominated for best drama this year was a huge albeit present surprise to most.)
I don't know what they're going to go with for Russell. Based on the season finale spoilers, I don't know if they'll kill him off, but then Eric will likely have to constantly watch his back, unless they have some weird truce.

Another thought... couldn't Russell and QSA rightfully sic any vampire on Eric now? He turned on his queen and murdered the husband of his king. He's a rogue living in QSA and Russell's territory. He may have the backing of the AVL, but nobody else knows that and he should basically have a target on his head until he pledges fealty to another royal, or gets back on QSA's good side.

BigB08822
08-17-2010, 07:16 AM
I know why people are so torn with this show if you have read the books. I just finished book 4 and obviously there is much more going on with Sookie and Eric than there is on the show. I know the show is behind but as someone said, they have a big name playing Bill and I just can not imagine him being written out of the show the way he is basically written out of the book. The show is going to have to deviate more and more from the books to keep Bill as a main character. I am not sure how I feel about this. The one good thing is that it means I wont quite know so much of what to expect on the show, so I can hopefully enjoy both the books and the show without feeling I've ruined the show by reading the books.

Question for those who have read all the books. I am about to begin book 5 and I am getting REALLY tired of having CH repeat so many back stories and information. I don't know if I can stomach reading any more about how hard it was for Sookie to grow up a telepath and how hard it was for her to date and oh by the way that's why she likes vampires. I could literally come up with 10 other examples but I just refuse to go through them again. Does she ever relax on that? I guess she wants all the books to stand alone if they have to but come on, this is a really long series of books and I doubt many people would pick up book #7 and just begin there. Start at the beginning, people! I bet if we took out all of that stuff we could shorten the books by 1/5. I don't mind the short introduction of characters as they appear but the other stuff is just too much to have to read every.single.book.

Evilynn
08-17-2010, 10:48 AM
Evidently Alan Ball thinks Bill can Walk On Water (literally).

I thought that was deliberately taking the piss, considering what the fans and press have said about Sookie/Bill vs Sookie/Eric. Maybe I'm giving Ball too much credit, but considering how camp and tongue in cheek the show is most of the time, I would assume it'd deliberate poking fun, not actually meant to be taken serious.

Was that Yvette with Nan Flanigan in the car during Russell's stint as news anchor of the day?

I like that the show deviates so much from the books, it's more fun when I can't predict everything. That said, I had only read Club Dead (and thought it kinda sucked) before watching TB, so I was never that attached to the books in the first place, so I can see where the SVM purists are coming from. I'm sort of dreading to see Game of Thrones next year.

rfisher
08-17-2010, 11:49 AM
Question for those who have read all the books. I am about to begin book 5 and I am getting REALLY tired of having CH repeat so many back stories and information. I don't know if I can stomach reading any more about how hard it was for Sookie to grow up a telepath and how hard it was for her to date and oh by the way that's why she likes vampires. I could literally come up with 10 other examples but I just refuse to go through them again. Does she ever relax on that? I guess she wants all the books to stand alone if they have to but come on, this is a really long series of books and I doubt many people would pick up book #7 and just begin there. Start at the beginning, people! I bet if we took out all of that stuff we could shorten the books by 1/5. I don't mind the short introduction of characters as they appear but the other stuff is just too much to have to read every.single.book.

She'll mention it in every book. All series books do that and lots of people do start with books in the middle. I do it all the time. Agents and editors demand that introduction. You just skip over those parts and don't pay any attention when you read a lot. There's also several short stories about Sookie and Bon Temp that were published in anthologies that explain a lot of things. In fact, CH published a compiled version of all of them last year. CH also refers to events that occur in the short stories in the primary books.

jen_faith
08-17-2010, 12:48 PM
Maybe I'm giving Ball too much credit, but considering how camp and tongue in cheek the show is most of the time, I would assume it'd deliberate poking fun, not actually meant to be taken serious.

The cheezy, yellow light graveyard is kind of a foyer to fairyland or something like that. I thought he was walking on the water because the water is the portal to fairyland and he, being a non-fairy, can't go there--so he doesn't sink.

But maybe you are right. The show can be very arch or "meta". There are some lines that just had me cracking up, most of them are Eric's lines. For example, when he noted that the werewolves were from Mississippi and couldn't Sookie tell that by their accents, I laughed because I figured he was referring to the fact that the accents in the show are all over the place. Some other lines that make me chuckle are "Drink the elixer that is my 1,000 year old blood" and the upcoming "If I die the true death before having kissed you at least one time the my life will not have been complete" (paraphrasing here). I mean, how campy is that? At least it's my interpretation that these lines are meant to be campy. If not, then I will be thoroughly embarrassed at myself for liking a show with such execrable writing.


Was that Yvette with Nan Flanigan in the car during Russell's stint as news anchor of the day?

I thought so too initially but I think not. Yvetta has smaller boobs and a Slavic(?) accent. I think the limo bimbo was something like the rent-a-snack Eric had in Dallas meant to show the hypocrisy of Nan and politicians in general (a running theme over the seasons, evidently, given the state senator and Lafayette shown previously).


As for ASkars, I like seeing Eric's vulnerable side because it does show Alex's acting talent instead of just cold bastard. Most show reviewers though constantly praise him as the most talented actor on the show. Not necessarily from how he reads his lines, but from the way he uses his face (mostly his eyes) to show the layers of what's really going on with Eric.

I run hot and cold with Skarsgard. Sometimes I think his acting is really good (the mourning Godric scene/dream with Sookie last season was great). Other times, I think he is very wooden.


But he was so pretty!

I liked Godric! He was a little pocket-porny (ob. skating reference) type of vampire. I admit to rewatching the death of Godric episode and I thought the dream scene between Sookie and Eric was hot--unlike the shower scene between Sookie and Bill this last episode.

screech
08-17-2010, 07:38 PM
HOT HOT HOT!!

Alexander Skarsgard, Anna Paquin and Stephen Moyer, naked and bloody on the cover of Rolling Stone. (http://earsucker.com/2010/08/17/photo-alexander-skarsgard-anna-paquin-stephen-moyer-naked-on-rolling-stone-cover/) Very strategic placement of Anna's leg and arms (and one of Stephen's hands...) Wish Alex would have been standing a bit closer, but then we wouldn't get to see his abs. YUM!!!

Satellitegirl
08-17-2010, 07:47 PM
whoa :swoon:

olympic
08-17-2010, 07:51 PM
It hasn't been said. I take it you have not read the books? they're werepanthers

Thanks, rfisher. I haven't read the books. I caught 'True Blood' on HBO in '08 and only recently got interested, a johnny-come-lately. What I've done in the past is read books after watching very interesting programs.

Octoberopals
08-17-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm reading the books totally out of order, due to reserving them through the public library.......& it's weird to find an event in a later book being shown on the current installment of TB. To be honest, I like all the weirdness that appears everywhere.

Can some one please get rid of Crystal [she is boring!!!!!] PRONTO? Yes, I know what happens to her in the books & wonder if that will make it to the tube? I'm still waiting for Jason to get "Loves True Bite", which should be interesting. Hotshot's people remind me of Dueling Banjos's characters.

Currently I'm waiting for Book 10 to come in on my reservation. Ms. Harris needs to write faster [ at least a book a year] to keep all of us interested.

I LOVED the Rolling Stones cover!!!