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Garden Kitty
05-13-2009, 06:35 PM
The evidence against Kloeden appears to be mounting (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090513/ap_en_ot/us_tv_david_tennant;_ylt=AkRh2wZgJOPgZDsKfKzu1LJxF b8C). If he had a Spanish license, they probably wouldn't go after him until a positive test, but I can't imagine Germany won't start a proceeding. (or does he hold a Swiss license like Ullrich?) Either way, it won't help him look for a job if Astana is suspended at the end of the month.

And I won't spoil the ending of today's stages, but :respec: to Bradley Wiggins who is a much better climber than you'd expect. That's got to be a pleasant surprise in an otherwise disappointing race for Garmin.

ETA: Horner's blog (with spoilers) (http://blog.oregonlive.com/horner/)

there were hills today (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/5b/fullj.663d5cc968fb28a8a0313f7219e1b55e/663d5cc968fb28a8a0313f7219e1b55e-getty-cycling-ita-giro.jpg)

and snow (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090513/capt.1294296ccd944f6daadb1932d7fc3ff4.italy_giro_c ycling_alp118.jpg)

kedrin
05-14-2009, 06:07 AM
aw- it's ok- you can post results. if I don't want spoilers and then read the cycling thread, I really have only myself to blame, no? :lol::lol::lol:

beautiful stage today. I love the dolomites.

Garden Kitty
05-14-2009, 03:09 PM
Fabian (http://www.cyclingnews.com./photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro094/PIC28802655) :)

Paul Sherwen's latest African proverb:
Knowledge is like a garden: if it is not cultivated, it cannot be harvested

ETA: NY Velocity's Dan Schmalz interview with Jonathan Vaughters about the Giro (http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/vaughters-giro). Not quite as funny as the one in which Vaughters called Christian Vande Velde "piglet", but good. :lol:

Such a pretty sport (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/85/fullj.e3d78992cb3a3dd64112f93fd1d6bc28/e3d78992cb3a3dd64112f93fd1d6bc28-getty-cycling-ita-giro.jpg)

Edited: He's baaaaack, and I don't mean Lance (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/48/fullj.391958b3ac3f184748be705070fb7064/391958b3ac3f184748be705070fb7064-getty-cycling-ita-giro.jpg)

All pink and purply (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro096/bettiniphoto_0038506_1_full)

Garden Kitty
05-15-2009, 02:39 PM
Astana is wearing "faded" jerseys (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/Astana_riders_wear_faded_kit_in_protest_over_unpai d_wages_article_282607.html) with the logos of most of the sponsors faded out to wear they can't be seen in protest over not having been paid salaries. Only the one Kazakh sponsor who has paid, and the Trek and Nike logos are visible. Velonews has questioned whether this is a power play by the sponsors to either make sure Vino is on the team, or build a team around Vino, but Johan says he thinks it's purely financial.

Armstrong in the faded jersey (http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/8744994.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1242395748&Signature=kECdiO%2FOA5d78cvzJNyROGbwQfc%3D)

slippery descent (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/2b/fullj.415e9274c8404f32e3ebfa1aecc124b8/415e9274c8404f32e3ebfa1aecc124b8-getty-cycling-ita-giro-di_luca.jpg)

Should a guy nicknamed Killer really wear pink booties? And I wonder what Lance said to get this reaction (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/0f/fullj.6880c3261d4e8db2dea138ebd956430d/6880c3261d4e8db2dea138ebd956430d-getty-cycling-ita-giro-di_luca.jpg)

Basso and DiLuca have a more serious discussion (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/e4/fullj.aaf19989b6e021aa7a1f21f6412e2155/aaf19989b6e021aa7a1f21f6412e2155-getty-cycling-ita-giro-di_luca.jpg)

errrmmm, OK Danilo (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/a6/fullj.2a7d98f3a53e9544514e1d8594c9ecb9/2a7d98f3a53e9544514e1d8594c9ecb9-getty-cycling-ita-giro-di_luca.jpg)

ETA: From Taylor Phinney's twitter (http://twitter.com/taylorphinney):


USADA is here! Just got back from my ride and was about to hop in the shower.............. I think I'll wait.
23 minutes ago from web :lol:

lash
05-16-2009, 01:47 PM
GK, thanks for those pics. Part of why I love to watch cycling is seeing the comradarie between the riders. Same teams or otherwise. I love it when they pat each other on the back or give each other a little push :swoon: Diluca and Basso....I might pass out.

Garden Kitty
05-16-2009, 02:53 PM
Funny ESPN article comparing the Giro d'Italia with American sports events in May. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/090515) But they do a disservice to the Giro in the hair category - have they never seen the mastery with which Liquigas handles hair products?

Is it wrong of me to want DiLuca to keep the maglia rosa until at least stage 12 so we get to see him again in a pink skin suit (http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/CyclingPIcs/?action=view&current=r388093865.jpg)? Although it's not the same if it's not raining. (http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/CyclingPIcs/?action=view&current=fulljgetty-cycling-italy-giro_12_41.jpg) :lol:

Terrible accident for Rabobank's Pedro Horillo who went 150 feet down a ravine (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro098/PIC30051952) and had to be airlifted out by helicopter (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro098/PIC30041949). This pic (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro098/PIC30086404) gives an even better view of how steep the fall. Apparently it took 10 minutes before they could even find him in the ravine.

Velonews reports (http://www.velonews.com/article/92142/) that he's now in an induced coma to prevent brain swelling, and has a list of serious (but hopefully not life threatening) injuries.

Meanwhile Columbia continues to show amazing depth and versatility in their stage hunting. And just when you thought you couldn't beat the scenenry in the Dolomites, the race headed into Italian lake country (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090516/capt.77373deb9d7f4529b3ac7ff8349c4f62.italy_giro_c ycling_gir119.jpg?x=222&y=345&q=85&sig=_d7KgCufshkyqJdFZI3Idg--) with more amazing scenery.

Tomorrow is a 156 KM circuit race in Milan that should scare the GC contenders more than the mountain stages.

Edited: Michael Barry's journal from Velonews (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090516/capt.77373deb9d7f4529b3ac7ff8349c4f62.italy_giro_c ycling_gir119.jpg?x=222&y=345&q=85&sig=_d7KgCufshkyqJdFZI3Idg--) - he's such a great writer.


In the last few stages, while riding on the front, I have seen the open road; the Italian countryside and riders grow tired from the effort. For hours, I have ridden in a steady paceline with two to ten other riders. It is quickly evident when they only have a few more turns on the front left in their legs. Like a candle wick that is slowly flickering before it is absorbed by the wax it has melted their pulls slowly become shorter, slower and their effort fades with their desire

Edited again: Did I mention the lovely scenery today? (http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ch2foUgnT3Bt/610x.jpg)

serious DiLuca (http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0eEOeD1flkgEC/610x.jpg)

Yikes, another pic of the ravine where Horillo fell. (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro098/bettiniphoto_0038801_1_full) :eek:

lash
05-17-2009, 04:19 AM
Is it wrong of me to want DiLuca to keep the maglia rosa until at least stage 12 so we get to see him again in a pink skin suit (http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/CyclingPIcs/?action=view&current=r388093865.jpg)? [/URL] :lol:

I thought the exact same thing, thinking about that very same picture (that I saw after you posted it here last time) :swoon:



Terrible accident for Rabobank's Pedro Horillo who went [URL="http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro098/PIC30051952"]150 feet down a ravine


As someone who rides in the mountains a lot and oftren time a lone or with one or two other people I find that so terrifying! However, I am not racing and go a lot slower on the descent than the pros. Still....:eek:

In fact I was on a bumpy flight last night and when i got scared I thought about how much more likely my life were to end in a bike crash then a plane crash. :rolleyes: At least I it got me calmed down on the plane.

I'm on vacation so I wont be seeing the coverage till I get back. Thanks GK, I love to come here for the "best of" link list :)

kedrin
05-17-2009, 07:19 AM
yes- that ravine looked gnarly. I hope he's ok. and I'm seriously glad they instituted the helmet rule.

Garden Kitty
05-17-2009, 09:46 PM
I had a family event this morning, and missed the stage, but it sounds like I missed more protest than racing. (http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug=reu-girobacklash_pix&prov=reuters&type=lgns) The riders found the circuit race too dangerous because of parked cars and tram lines and basically stopped racing. The race organizers agreed to not count any of the race times for the GC, although there was a stage winner. Sounds like Lance was the one who talked to DiLuca and the other "bigs" about the protest - wonder now if the RCS is still happy they invited him.

This stage was probably the culmination of a couple of days of racers feeling the stage endings were too dangerous (high speed downhills in wet conditions, followed by suddenly narrowed roads for the finish). Mick Rogers called it the scariest race finish he recalled.

But there was still some more amazing scenery, this time in Milano (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/?id=/photos/2009/giro09/giro099/bettiniphoto_0038858_1_full)

Rest day, followed by more climbing, although Tuesday's stage was shortened because of snow and problems with radio signal receptions in the French mountains.

And I read that Horillo is out of the medically induced coma which is a good sign for his survival and recovery.

Garden Kitty
05-18-2009, 07:42 PM
I'm beginning to understand the protest of the circuit stage more after seeing this pic (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090517/capt.25bfef2bfb214fe2b31add632eb5544f.italy_giro_c ycling_gir119.jpg)

Here comes the peloton, and tourists are in the street taking pictures of the scenery behind them, and a woman is chatting on the phone in the roadway:eek:

Meanwhile, in Catalunya, Thor continues Norway's winning streak (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/fe/fullj.d664c3e4d985ee9e6abfa67c18bdee5e/d664c3e4d985ee9e6abfa67c18bdee5e-getty-cycling-esp-89th-volta-catalunya.jpg). I'm glad he wasn't too tired from calling in for Eurovision to race today. :lol:

Austrian authorities are investigating if Rasmussen and Kohl helped other athletes blood dope with their centr (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/more/05/18/kohl.rasmussen.ap/index.html?section=si_latest)ifuge, which could result in criminal penalties.

Garden Kitty
05-19-2009, 03:17 PM
NY Times with some interesting Giro history (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/sports/cycling/19cycling.html?_r=2&hp) - an article about the classic Giro rivalry between Bartali and Coppi

Today's "Queen Stage" turned into an intersting final and surprised some of the key guys lost time that will make the ITT even more important. Thursday should be very interesting! Tomorrow has one big climb, but it's early in the stage, and another climb towards the end, but it isn't a mountain finish, and so it's not too likely to have a big impact on the GC. But it could also be a chance for the guys who don't TT well to try to get some seconds/minutes ahead of the long ITT.

Article in USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2009-05-18-giro-armstrong_N.htm) regarding Armstrong and the circuit race protest and Toto has its own take on who the "old, short legs and long tongues" could be. (http://velocitynation.com/content/toto/2009/toto-turns-137) :lol:

ETA: Based on his twitter, Charlie Wegelius seems to be enjoying his time at the Giro:


We are in another hovel tonight. Smelly hot dirty rooms. I am not a snob, but this way over the top.

Lance hanging out with Girbecco, the Giro mascot (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/d2/fullj.91d0b5ecb1812c61018aa04d4c0f0674/91d0b5ecb1812c61018aa04d4c0f0674-getty-cycling-ita-giro.jpg)

lash
05-20-2009, 12:34 AM
GK, did you see this pic from the protest stage?

Tram Tracks! (http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/giro099/bettiniphoto_0038879_1_full.jpg) :eek:

That one alone is bad. You get a tire caught in one of those and you're going over the bars.

I haven't gotten caught up yet! I'm about to watch stage 5 now :cool:

kedrin
05-20-2009, 12:44 AM
hadn't seen the tram track photo.

yikes- and they're turning into them. one thing if you're crossing perpendicular- a whole other thing if you're riding parellel. ugly.

Garden Kitty
05-20-2009, 04:21 PM
I hadn't seen that pic, Lash. That is scary. Michael Barry talks a bit about the safety on the Giro routes (http://ow.ly/81ZG)

Poor Horner couldn't start today as a result of injuries from a crash yesterday. He was riding so well, and I hate to see him have to leave. It also can't be good news for Levi who crashed himself today. Hope he's ok for tomorrow. (ETA: Levi tweated that he went over the bars after hitting a water bottle and "lost a lot of skin" OUCH! Not good just before his most important stage)

Tomorrow is the big ITT. It's got some hills in it, so it won't be a straight flat ride. Menchov was even discussing using his regular bike instead of a tt bike. Tomorrow should have some real impact on the GC and if Danilo can limit his time losses, he'll be in a great position starting the last half of the race.

DiLuca was on the post-stage RAI show and said he most fears Menchov because he's a complete rider and that he thinks Levi will lose some time on the descents. DiLuca is also using his regular bike, and Levi is using a slightly modified road bike as well. Tomorrow's stage should also give us some amazing scenery with its route along the coast.

DiLuca celebrating in his all pink kit. (http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/b6/fullj.18ed223a78cb8e09d9b64eefc249aff3/18ed223a78cb8e09d9b64eefc249aff3-getty-cycling-ita-giro-podium.jpg) :shuffle:

Olympic flashback - the peloton in Turin (http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0aNA5Rt0dvcLU/610x.jpg)

More scenery (http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/07wp7rRbLO0qi/610x.jpg)

Edited again : Additional tests on Christian Vande Velde revealed more breaks than were originally identified including a break in the pelvis. July's Tour is not looking likely for him :(

kedrin
05-20-2009, 06:14 PM
I'm really looking forward to the ITT- Cinque Terre is so beautiful. The commentators on todays stage (yikes- I don't even know their names, so I'll just call them NotPhilAndPaul). NotPhilAndPaul were speculating on riders using road bikes because of the technical nature of the course.