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galaxygirl
02-14-2009, 05:58 PM
I do. She has been my number one dream girl for at LEAST 10 years. INCREDIBLE woman.

It must be a guy thing, cause I don't get it. :lol:

Wicked
02-14-2009, 10:43 PM
It took me awhile to get into this show. The beginning was boring but towards the end I actually enjoyed it.

Most pilot shows are better after the pilot episode. I will watch a few shows then make a decision on it.

galaxygirl
02-15-2009, 03:36 AM
It took me awhile to get into this show. The beginning was boring but towards the end I actually enjoyed it.


I enjoyed it more than I was expecting to. I do think they should have waited a bit to introduce the FBI guy, letting us get used to the characters and the show and then introducing the mystery about Echo's background.

mpal2
02-15-2009, 04:15 AM
Just found this thread. Can we expect repeats if we missed it?

galaxygirl
02-15-2009, 04:27 AM
Just found this thread. Can we expect repeats if we missed it?

Fox has it online. Here is the direct link to the video: http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=dollhouse. You apparently need to install some software to view it.

mpal2
02-15-2009, 04:31 AM
Thanks! :)

genevieve
02-15-2009, 08:33 AM
you can watch the show on hulu.com - no download required :)

I thought it was ok - I love Eliza Dushku and am thrilled to see Tahmoh Penikett in the show, but I'm a little worried that this is going to be a bit Charlie's Angels - just an excuse to see a hot woman put into skimpy clothes and/or danger all the time, since we don't get to see who Echo really is. And the frat-boy-like treatment guy comes across as a real tool. But I'm interested in where the inevitable breakdown in the treatments happens, and the backstory of the scarred doctor who treats the dolls. The ex-cop handler is intriguing too - he must have some reason to be working for an illegal operation like this and he had to have been vetted pretty well to be hired.

ETA: ooo I thought that was Amy Acker as the scarred doc. Me lurves her! :swoon:

JJH
02-15-2009, 10:26 AM
As happy as I am to see Whedon and Mutant Enemy back again, I have to admit that I was a bit underwhelmed by the pilot. I was expecting more wit and energy. Maybe the pilot went through one rewrite too many? We'll see how the show develops. My favorite Ha! moment was Eliza doing the same dance moves as a decade ago at the Bronze. Was it "Faith, Hope & Trick" or "Bad Girls"? Yes, I am/was a complete BTVS geek.

Amy L
02-15-2009, 12:21 PM
The pilot was rewritten, reshot, and completely done-over by FOX. The whole motorcycle/nearly illegal short dress thing has FOX all over it don't you think? I hope they take their claws out of Whedon's brain in later episodes. But I did still like the last half of the pilot.

My favorite character so far is the Topher the programmer. He's such an evil prick, but he plays it very well. I also liked the little WTF exchange between him and Fred Burkle Dr. Saunders. You can tell that Dr. Fred absolutely loathes everything that goes on in the Dollhouse, but she obviously has to stay there for some reason. And I'm sure that reason will be fascinating.

The whole Dollhouse and the corporate vibe is very Wolfram and Hart to me. If there are supposed to be parallels, then there will be some very entertaining decapitations in this show's future.

Well, I hope this show has a future!

tarotx
02-15-2009, 05:59 PM
Here's the Digg link that will take you to the Hulu link. Digg and watch/rewatch if you can. These days the suits at Fox pay attention to what is watched on fox.com, Hulu and bought from itunes and Amazon and not just what ratings nielsen gives. They also pay attention to the buzz generated at Dgg, twitter among the usual routes.

http://digg.com/television/Joss_Whedon_s_Dollhouse_episode_1_watch_online

PeterG
02-15-2009, 06:03 PM
who were the people in the room at the end where the tape of Eliza Dushku in her previous life was playing?

Ah, but that's the MYSTERY! Tune in next week to find out! ;) At first I thought it was the cop/detective trying to uncover Dollhouse's existance, but you see him (whoever is watching the video) sitting in his boxer shorts only. Behind him are two people who look like they've been murdered. Are these two friends (or family members) of Echo before she was Echo? In answer to your question...I have no idea! :lol:


The review I read today said with her changing personality/memories it would be difficult for the audience to develop a rapport with the character.

I take that to mean that that writer might have a hard time... As soon as I knew Joss and Eliza were involved, I had a rapport already! :D


I thought it was ok - I love Eliza Dushku and am thrilled to see Tahmoh Penikett in the show, but I'm a little worried that this is going to be a bit Charlie's Angels...

Tahmoh Penikett plays the cop/detective who wants to "out" the Dollhouse project? If so, when I first saw/heard him, I thought, "oh, so this David Conrad's new job after Ghost Whisperer killed off Jim..." :lol:

I'm not worried at all about this becoming a T & A show. I think Joss and Eliza have nothing against sexing it up here and there, but they are both way beyond fluff. And Charlie's Angels, even though it had the fluff element to it, was also ground-breaking in a way. Three women who could bring down the male bad guys and not need men to help them get the job done. :respec:


ETA: ooo I thought that was Amy Acker as the scarred doc. Me lurves her! :swoon:

I noticed her name listed as a Guest Star (not as a series regular). Which made me wonder…is she getting killed off this episode? Didn’t happen, but I’m guessing that character’s days are numbered…. :(

Matryeshka
02-15-2009, 07:06 PM
As happy as I am to see Whedon and Mutant Enemy back again, I have to admit that I was a bit underwhelmed by the pilot. I was expecting more wit and energy. Maybe the pilot went through one rewrite too many? We'll see how the show develops. My favorite Ha! moment was Eliza doing the same dance moves as a decade ago at the Bronze. Was it "Faith, Hope & Trick" or "Bad Girls"? Yes, I am/was a complete BTVS geek.

It was Bad Girls. "want...take...have"

Whedon has always been a slow developer. The first few episodes of Buffy were...ummm...not so good, and I think that's the kindest thing you can say about it. I don't know if I'd have watched the show at all if that was the first episode I saw. Angel was the same way, even though it had familiar characters. I thought Firefly was pretty good straight off the bat, but we all saw the longevity of THAT show.

I'll reserve judgment for at least three or four episodes. (Which could bite me on the ass, as I was determined to like Point Pleasant because of Marti Noxon, and that might have been the worst show of the 00s...:scream:) But I have faith, and if nothing else, Eliza Dushka is :hat1:

Ajax
02-17-2009, 03:01 PM
I thought Firefly was pretty good straight off the bat, but we all saw the longevity of THAT show.


Ahhh Firefly. I still go into a fit of rage when I think about how anybody could cancel that show :(

I have to say I was sorely disappointed in the Dollhouse premiere. I'll stick with it because it's Whedon and I've loved every single one of his shows. But where was the humor??? One of the main reasons his previous shows appealed to me so much was because they were so damn funny, and there was not a single line in the Dollhouse premiere that made me laugh. I don't care too much about the plot (which TBH does not make much sense at all) as long as we get some good character development but if the series doesn't have any of Whedon's trademark humor I don't know that I'd be able to stick with it.

Wyliefan
02-17-2009, 03:10 PM
I noticed her name listed as a Guest Star (not as a series regular). Which made me wonder…is she getting killed off this episode? Didn’t happen, but I’m guessing that character’s days are numbered…. :(

Sometimes semi-regulars are listed as guest stars for whatever reason. I think Lorelai's parents on Gilmore Girls were billed as guest stars for a while, if not for the whole run.

emason
02-17-2009, 05:04 PM
Sometimes semi-regulars are listed as guest stars for whatever reason.

'For whatever reason' = whatever deal/the best deal that the actor's/actors' agent/agents came up with. Guest Star/Special Guest Star/And Also Co-Starring/etc. - these are all highly negotiated by agents for the best possible listing.