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BigB08822
11-03-2009, 11:32 PM
Bars is a totally different event than it was in the early to mid 90's. Back then it was literally hop over to high bar, kip, tkatchev, kip half pirhouette, shoot down to handstand, hop on bar back to high bar, giant full, full twisting double tuck dismount. It was sooo boring and honestly really easy! I love todays bar routines but I wouldn't mind toning them down just a bit!

Karpenko
11-03-2009, 11:48 PM
I agree, bars is really the only event that I like better post-COP.

Coco
11-04-2009, 01:05 AM
I hope someone brings back the back handspring over the low bar mount. It has to pass through handstand, but doesn't need to stop.

Just think...what if someone could connect it to one of the many Shap 1/2 variations. That would be .2 in CV (D+E) right off the bat.

pollyanna
11-04-2009, 01:16 AM
On bars - I know this really dates me :o but I remember watching the 1972 Olympics with my mom, and when Olga Korbut did her bars, our jaws literally dropped to the floor - I couldn't stop saying "oh my gosh, oh my gosh!" I had never seen anything so exciting in my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv_zjifF2-k (starts at about 1:00)

canbelto
11-11-2009, 04:37 PM
I noticed that back in the day the Soviets/Romanians and the Americans seemed to have two distinct ways of running down the towards the vault. The Americans seemed to accelerate as they reached the horse, picking up as much speed as possible. The Soviets/Romanians on the other hand seemed to run towards the vault rather deliberately, like they were pacing steps, the way long jumpers do.

Here's videos of the difference:

Shannon Miller's picture perfect vault:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vntWyUoAfeI

Boginskaya's vault:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rKBH89gWGY

Gina Gogean vault:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfhctkiWwY

See what I mean?

vesperholly
11-11-2009, 07:19 PM
I think the long, deliberate steps were Boginskaya's style. Gogean looks like she accelerates to me.

Karpenko
11-11-2009, 08:45 PM
It's all dependant on the gymnast. I personally feel that the long deliberate steps show more control, Boguinskaya even found a way to make her run towards the vault look artistic.

The smaller gymnasts need that extra push at the end because they have a longer way to go up, the taller gymnasts always seem to alter their run so they can make sure the technique is just right when they contact the horse.

canbelto
11-17-2009, 01:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MDMVjrWtc8

The commentators said so much about Lilia's "elegance" and "ballet" that I forgot she was also a kickass tumbler. I mean that double front with a twist -- does anyone even try that anymore, ever?:eek: I also marvel at how someone so pint-sized could get so much height and distance on her whips.

Karpenko
11-17-2009, 04:56 AM
She's the only one to ever even attempt it in competition, let alone perfect it the way she did.

Podkopayeva :swoon: To this day I still think she has the most perfect physique for a gymnast that I've ever seen. And that toe-point? 12 more :swoon:'s

floskate
11-17-2009, 09:57 PM
Here's some really good quality footage of Korbut v janz in 1972. Looking at both bars routines in this quality, you've gotta :eek: at the way it was scored!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WurHIwTOW0I

vesperholly
11-18-2009, 09:56 AM
That is amazing quality, best I've ever seen of the 72 games! Love the epic scrunchie on Janz - and we thought Shannon Miller's was big! :lol:

bardtoob
11-18-2009, 03:34 PM
Love the epic scrunchie on Janz - and we thought Shannon Miller's was big! :lol:

:rofl:

Yehudi
11-18-2009, 05:29 PM
Some rhythmic love here. Galina Beloglazova is all kinds of gorgeous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvxNBLUIkTs

my little pony
11-19-2009, 01:23 AM
Love the epic scrunchie on Janz - and we thought Shannon Miller's was big! :lol:

I thought it was a hydrangea until I expanded the screen

vesperholly
11-19-2009, 09:58 AM
I don't recall NBC covering this. :P Roza Galieva's FX in the 96 team optionals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdJ0N2MmIUk&feature=related

Shame about the big step on the double layout, she could've made finals and might have medaled. Really gorgeous routine. The Russians had such superior dance and choreography in 96, but the technical mistakes killed them.