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10-28-2009, 12:52 AM
Viktoria Karpenko 1999 Worlds AA FX:

Looking back at this routine now really makes me appreciate it a lot more, my my my how floor routines have deteriorated. From start to finish its interesting, albeit maybe not the best natural dancer ever.

This is the kind of direction that I want Valeri to take Rebecca Bross in. She's not Nastia or a natural dancer, but Karpenko made up for that by doing interesting and very versatile tumbling passes, a precise and finished sense of movement, and the music gives it a slightly fun and quirky feel to it as well. On top of that it's all done with the level 4 mega-bitchface that we all know and love from Becca.

She did beat Shawn on floor in 07 so its potentially very good, but it needs to be revamped completely and smartly.

10-28-2009, 01:01 AM
I can't watch that Karpenko routine without thinking of her Olympics AA FX. :fragile:

I believe she's about 16 or 17, still very young and should be around at least until London 2012. She will be competing at Worlds this year. :)
Porgras will turn 16 in December.

10-28-2009, 09:33 PM
Another Indian gymnastics video. :)

10-31-2009, 05:02 AM
Keep an eye out for this one come 2012. Natsumi Sasada of Japan. Check out her mount on the BB!


11-01-2009, 01:32 AM
The difficulty of the bean routines in the early 1990s always astounds me:

Tatiana Lysenko (even with the fall it's an amazing routine)

Tatiana Gutsu:

Shannon Miller:

Lu Li:

I'm just :eek: at the stuff they tried.

11-01-2009, 05:44 AM
Lyssenko's mount would be really valuable under the COP now, it's my favorite mount of all-time I think. Of course we will never see it again (hoping to jinx what I'm saying), everyone is more focused on safe and clean instead of risky and groundbreaking nowadays.

11-01-2009, 02:06 PM
I miss the layouts in a row. IIRC, we don't see that anymore because gymnasts can't repeat skills? Even after 1996, the most we saw in a row was 2, and not it's none.

It's not like gymnasts will ever be able to do double summersaults on the beam, so I'd like the international federation to make an exception for that particular skill.

11-01-2009, 07:11 PM
IIRC there was some rule change that happened last year where you may not get credit for 3lo's in a row because it's repeating a skill, you can actually get connection bonus now, whereas before you couldn't.

11-01-2009, 07:27 PM
The Soviets loved to do those somersaults onto the beam mounts. Their beam routines even today I think would make jaws drop. Gutsu, Lysenko, Olesya Dudnik (watch her beam routine :eek:), Lilia Podkopayeva, etc. all did crazy difficult beam routines. They were really exciting to watch, unfortunately many times they fell right on the mount.
I think it's the Romanians that started the "safe but clean" trend on beam.:( On the one hand the beam is no longer the fall-fest that it could sometimes turn into, on the other hand I do miss the days when the girls performed such high-wire skills.

11-01-2009, 08:31 PM
Here are some more crazy difficult beam routines that we'll never see again.:(

Andrea Raducan

Lilia Podkopayeva:

And even though Carly Patterson wasn't my favorite gymnast, her beam routine was also packed with difficulty:

11-01-2009, 09:07 PM
I disagree about Podkopayeva having a really difficult routine. Her mount was a risk and her dismount was THE most difficult at the time but the interior of the routine was really rather safe. Her series, in particular, played it really safe. She does two backhandsprings into a pike open swing down. I always hated those because there is very little chance of falling off. You can be off on the skill and still easily stay on the beam. It would have been better if she atleast did a layout stepout as the second skill and went from that into the pike open swing down. That being said, her routine was lovely.

11-02-2009, 01:47 AM
I've never liked Podkopayeva's beam that much either. I have to give it to her that she went really high on that swing down, which made it riskier. But aside from the dismount, it was stuff that everybody did at the time, except for that half head turn, which was cute but not really acrobatic.

I was underwhelmed by her bars as well. I LOVED her kip cast handstands and her giant swings, but on many moves she had form breaks and just one big release (with form breaks as well most of the time).

11-02-2009, 01:55 AM
Never mind... wrong thread :slinkaway

11-02-2009, 02:42 AM
I have to say though that just as beam isn't as exciting of an event as it used to be, I think uneven bars is a lot more exciting nowadays. A lot of the credit goes to the Chinese who come up with amazing routines on the bars. You win some, you lose some, I guess.

11-03-2009, 07:48 PM
Really? I think bars are exceedingly boring now. If I never see another stalder lift from low to high bar or straddle tkatchev again, it'll be too soon.