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vesperholly
05-04-2010, 09:30 PM
I love 89 Dudnik. It still makes me sad she had to quit before the 92 games, because if she'd maintained similar form, she'd have won. Incredible gymnast.

BigB08822
05-05-2010, 07:05 AM
I never tire of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WRngR_pg34&feature=related

Bontas 1991 Worlds EF FX

Buzz
05-05-2010, 11:07 PM
Some Indian gymnasts who competed in international meets lately. Hopefully they will only get better. :)

State of Indian gymnastics (http://ishare.rediff.com/video/others/indian-gymnasts-practise-with-faulty-equipment/1080207)
Mekala Sri Devi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWp0Le53rOU&feature=related)
Meenakshi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmNLQFz8Lwg)
Dipa Karmakar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVFryvRa5sM&NR=1)

pollyanna
05-06-2010, 03:33 AM
I never tire of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WRngR_pg34&feature=related

Bontas 1991 Worlds EF FX

I was there in person for those Worlds - the FX EF was AMAZING. Both Bontas and Chuso tumbled to the rafters. I thought Milosovici was going to tie those 2 for a third gold medalist, but she didn't get the score. Zmeskal didn't have the tumbling difficulty of the others, but she had originality and better dance. Boginskaya's dance was unmatched, but she flubbed the 1st tumbling pass. It was easy to see that Miller would soon be a star. All in all, it was a truly spectacular event and I was lucky to be there.

BigB08822
05-06-2010, 06:41 AM
Pollyanna, I am jealous! Miller actually had a really great routine herself, she would have medaled in most years but there was some insane difficulty and hit routines happening in 1991. That was probably the best year ever for the women's FX event.

chipso1
05-06-2010, 08:59 PM
In honor of her "new" Olympic bronze medal, Tasha Schwikert's routines from the team final in Sydney 2000:

Bars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjnANx7iZfA

Beam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG4U05f2_rs&feature=related

Floor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZpupVDEhjk&feature=related

:swoon:

judgejudy27
05-06-2010, 09:38 PM
The 96 Olympic floor final was also really good. Poor Dawes had one of her best floor routines ever and barely won bronze. Gogean a 3 time World Champion on floor would have finished only 6th even without her out of bounds.

LuckyCharm
05-06-2010, 09:40 PM
In honor of her "new" Olympic bronze medal, Tasha Schwikert's routines from the team final in Sydney 2000:



:respec:

Ray UB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDR14k2YYtc&feature=related

Dantzscher FX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XD60OXvoX4&feature=related

floskate
05-16-2010, 09:31 AM
It didn't deserve a 10 but thankfully the judges recognized how much more difficult it was than the fulls.

I agree, but looking at that now I'm struck by how much better Dudniks form is on this vault 21 years ago than pretty much all the DTY's I saw at the recent Europeans. I agree 1989 Dudnik was just a star :swoon:

BigB08822
05-17-2010, 09:34 PM
I was watching random videos the other day and came across Miller's beam routine from the 1993 Worlds AA. She dismounted with what surely looked like a full twisting double pike dismount. It was hard to be 100% sure because they filmed from the end of the beam where she was dismounting, not from the side. If this is what she did, was she the very first to do this dismount? I figure some crazy Soviet gymnast did it first but I can't think of who off the top of my head. Gutsu always did it tucked that I remember, Lysenko always did double tucks, who else had crazy difficulty on beam? Surely she was the first (and maybe still the only) American to do it. Did she ever do it again, was this the only time?

stanhope
05-17-2010, 10:31 PM
I just watched Miller's beam routine from '93 Worlds AA and it looks like the dismount was a full twisting double pike. One of the posters on youtube said Shannon scored a 9.887 on her preliminary beam routine from that same Worlds - I would love to see that. Miller's '93 beam routine is just jammed packed with difficulty.

BigB08822
05-17-2010, 11:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vSw6Pex1W8

It is loading slow for me, but this appears to be her prelim routines. Should include beam. She was absolutely rocking vault at this competition. She averaged a 9.762 on her vault in prelims, wasn't it only worth a 9.800? She was near perfect on BOTH! Then in the AA I think she actually did score a 9.800 for one of her vaults. All with a supposed stomach bug.

Anyone find out who did the first full twisting double pike dismount from beam?

ETA: That FX during prelims was probably the best one I ever saw from her. Vaults could not be better, for her. She hit her bars set as well as she could, with one of her best double layout dismounts, and beam was spot on with another piked full twist dismount, this time with only a small hop! The commentator called it a tuck but it looked piked to me and they may have had the same tough angle to view it from. In short, her best AA performance ever! Too bad it was in prelims but she still won the title anyway.

stanhope
05-18-2010, 04:42 AM
That is definitely Miller's best AA showing ever. I really do think '93 Shannon was the best Shannon :) The difficulty of her beam routine is just insane!

gk_891
05-19-2010, 01:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vSw6Pex1W8

It is loading slow for me, but this appears to be her prelim routines. Should include beam. She was absolutely rocking vault at this competition. She averaged a 9.762 on her vault in prelims, wasn't it only worth a 9.800? She was near perfect on BOTH! Then in the AA I think she actually did score a 9.800 for one of her vaults. All with a supposed stomach bug.

Anyone find out who did the first full twisting double pike dismount from beam?

ETA: That FX during prelims was probably the best one I ever saw from her. Vaults could not be better, for her. She hit her bars set as well as she could, with one of her best double layout dismounts, and beam was spot on with another piked full twist dismount, this time with only a small hop! The commentator called it a tuck but it looked piked to me and they may have had the same tough angle to view it from. In short, her best AA performance ever! Too bad it was in prelims but she still won the title anyway.

Full twisting double pike from beam? I know that Svetlana Kozlova, Roza Galieva, and Ludmilla Stovbchataya were doing that skill the early 90s (perhaps late 80s as well). I wonder if Deliana Vodenicharova did it (alhoughI could be thinking of bars). Mari Kosuge also threw it in that same time period as well.

BigB08822
05-19-2010, 03:31 AM
Ok, then we know Miller wasn't the first but one of the first. Thanks! Any idea if anyone "submitted" the skill and has it named after them?