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bardtoob
12-31-2008, 03:01 AM
Gordeeva and Grinkov 1987 Worlds Pairs long Program with Quad Twist Lift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r70708v3gU4)
valenc
12-31-2008, 05:29 AM
Gordeeva and Grinkov 1987 Worlds Pairs long Program with Quad Twist Lift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r70708v3gU4)
On a related note, is this a triple axel catch or a quad twist from an axel entry? Looks like a triple to me, but still a :encore: move from Cherkasova:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-eGed9fyY
floskate
12-31-2008, 10:27 AM
It's a throw triple axel catch as they used to call them. Pestova & Leonovich did the same move also. The last pair I remember doing axel catches was Valova & Vassiliev who did a double. I wish they would bring these back.
I wish they would bring these back.
Really? This is one move I don't miss. It's so hard to do a proper catch or land on one foot, it just looks like a recipe for disaster under CoP scoring.
valenc
12-31-2008, 05:15 PM
Thanks, floskate! I thought this video might have been mislabeled. :)
I like the idea of throw/catches but have never seen them done really well. I imagine the timing and coordination of one is quite tricky.
floskate
12-31-2008, 05:27 PM
Really? This is one move I don't miss. It's so hard to do a proper catch or land on one foot, it just looks like a recipe for disaster under CoP scoring.
True, but it's a little unfair to use examples from 30 years ago. I imagine that given the advances in technique we might see some pretty spectacular moves from some pairs. Of course you'll always have pairs who struggle with double twist though, regardless. :shuffle:
bardtoob
12-31-2008, 05:41 PM
Really? This is one move I don't miss. It's so hard to do a proper catch or land on one foot, it just looks like a recipe for disaster under CoP scoring.
No less of a disaster than Zhang and Zhang's splatacular Quad Throw Jump at the Olympics. At least the lady is more likely to land on her partner rather than on the ice :rolleyes:
valenc
12-31-2008, 06:03 PM
For another look at G&G's quad twist, here's footage (http://gordeeva.com/media/tv-shows/english/way_to_olympics_1987.shtml) from 1987 that just resurfaced. The quad is right at the halfway mark.
I wish we had more of these old Soviet videos to watch!
Yehudi
01-04-2009, 12:45 AM
I've always felt 1999 Europeans was the best ice dance competition ever, if only for the sheer number of interesting programs. Here are two from completely obscure skaters.
The Hugentoblers
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z08_c_cJl_I)
Deniaud and Jaffredo
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm0MRun-aCU)
bardtoob
01-04-2009, 06:27 AM
Ice Capades 1981 Protopopov Russian Gold Medalist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBfXO0CvqWI)
Oleg was 49 years old and Ludmila was 47 years.
Seerek
01-04-2009, 06:56 PM
Something from the Euros Thread:
Jewel Thief? More like Program Thief. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv9mpppvLEg) Merovee Ephrem - 2008 Europeans Short Program
gracefulswan
01-05-2009, 07:54 AM
Best LP ever from Sasha Cohen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifDo65tLy9Y&feature=related
I know some people criticize this version of Swan Lake choreographed by Robin Wagner (I don't agree with those people; it's still a good program, albeit totally different from the original one), but you can't deny that this performance is simply fantastic. Every jump, spin, the spirals--down to the fingertips at the exact correct moment of music, the expression, the ease of it. She still makes me excited about skating.
wow, why couldn't she have done that same routine at worlds that year... wow again! bet she asked herself that question many times afterwards, LOL. so sasha is capable of landing all the jumps perfectly.... it's just a mental thing with her..
wonder if she'll ever finally do it. hit 7 perfect triples at a world or olympic competition. i don't see how she can be denied a win then.... and it would be ironic if she didn't win despite being perfect...when all the times she wasn't, she came in second.
BigB08822
01-05-2009, 09:29 PM
On a related note, is this a triple axel catch or a quad twist from an axel entry? Looks like a triple to me, but still a :encore: move from Cherkasova:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-eGed9fyY
Didn't Brasseur and Eissler do this at some point? I think they had a triple axel catch planned in their 94 Worlds LP but because of her ribs they left it out and did a single.
Didn't Brasseur and Eissler do this at some point? I think they had a triple axel catch planned in their 94 Worlds LP but because of her ribs they left it out and did a single.
The move planned was a triple lateral twist. The only other couple I can think of that did a lateral twist was Eltsova & Bushkov in their long program at Nagano. That was only a single (or was it a double :confused:) as well. Someone else has to have done this move over the years, right?
lmarie086
01-06-2009, 01:27 AM
I don't remember where exactly but I read the name Katy Taylor somewhere the other day and and I didn't know who that was so I looked her up. She was the skater who made her senior national debut at the 2005 US Nationals with Kimmie Meissner, and I remember liking her skating a lot better than Kimmie's.
2006 4CC LP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bciyCWo36w
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